"Sober Curiosity" with Tim and Tommy

[00:00:00] Golf season's over and I'm not looking forward to this fucking three months of no drinking.

[00:00:05] So, okay, so that's this big heavy rain cloud that's hovering over me and it's fucking driving me nuts.

[00:00:13] I almost want it to just be fucking November already because I'm tired of thinking about it.

[00:00:17] Are we doing anything before it starts?

[00:00:19] Oh, we should. I was just talking to another buddy of mine today.

[00:00:23] We were like, fuck, we should really start it off with a bad hangover.

[00:00:26] Have a day and remind ourselves why we're not gonna do that.

[00:00:30] Okay, so why don't you explain it to our audience listeners.

[00:00:33] We're taking...

[00:00:34] What are we doing?

[00:00:34] We're taking November, December, January off booze.

[00:01:01] Welcome everybody back to The Quiet Riot Show.

[00:01:03] Hey.

[00:01:04] I'm gonna welcome myself back to The Quiet Riot Show.

[00:01:06] Yes, welcome back.

[00:01:07] It's been a little while.

[00:01:09] Jesus Christ.

[00:01:10] What?

[00:01:11] You have responsibility.

[00:01:12] I do. I have lots of them.

[00:01:14] Yeah, this is one of... this show is one of them.

[00:01:16] This is one of them, yes.

[00:01:17] I'm here.

[00:01:18] It's the least important probably.

[00:01:20] Well, I don't know about least important, but...

[00:01:22] Well, it's... yeah.

[00:01:23] I mean, you gotta take care of your family and your business and all that stuff.

[00:01:25] Well, you gotta golf and...

[00:01:26] Well, of course.

[00:01:28] Unfortunately...

[00:01:29] Or luckily, you golf in the morning.

[00:01:31] That's true.

[00:01:31] So we can't record in the morning anyways.

[00:01:33] No, you're at work.

[00:01:34] Yeah.

[00:01:35] So...

[00:01:35] You did.

[00:01:37] I know.

[00:01:38] I know.

[00:01:39] One day.

[00:01:39] One day I'll have just one job.

[00:01:50] I need a break.

[00:01:50] You good?

[00:01:51] No, I'm okay.

[00:01:51] It's fine.

[00:01:52] You know, I'll talk into my coworkers and just like, you know, I relaxed, came home, cooked.

[00:01:58] And I'm like, everything's rushed.

[00:01:59] Well, you saw I came home today.

[00:02:00] It's just...

[00:02:01] Yeah.

[00:02:01] Or like, you came over and I'm like, quickly like fucking cook, cook, cook.

[00:02:05] And then do this.

[00:02:06] And like, I finished with another client prior to this.

[00:02:08] And it's just like, fuck.

[00:02:12] It's a lot.

[00:02:12] It is.

[00:02:13] It is.

[00:02:14] Yeah.

[00:02:14] It's been a minute.

[00:02:15] Fuck.

[00:02:16] Yeah.

[00:02:16] It has been.

[00:02:16] I missed the last show.

[00:02:17] Yeah, you did.

[00:02:18] You had Kyle on.

[00:02:19] Did you listen to it?

[00:02:20] No, I didn't.

[00:02:21] No, you should listen to it.

[00:02:21] How was it?

[00:02:23] Not like you're going to say it was shitty, but...

[00:02:25] No, it's just, you know, like you usually take the lead on doing the questions and everything.

[00:02:32] Yeah, it's good for you.

[00:02:32] That's why I didn't come.

[00:02:33] It's a personal development for you.

[00:02:35] That's right.

[00:02:35] Yeah.

[00:02:36] Hey, maybe I should let you do the editing and everything.

[00:02:40] Well, I don't know if we need to go there.

[00:02:43] No, but it was good.

[00:02:44] I was definitely nervous, but we needed to release an episode, so I was just like, okay,

[00:02:50] well, we got to do it, right?

[00:02:52] And I knew Kyle, like I know him personally, right, outside of the show, and it's not like

[00:02:57] we just got a random guest.

[00:02:59] And so I felt comfortable talking to him about it because I knew the background a little bit.

[00:03:03] So it was just nice to kind of pull out some extra information that I found out at the

[00:03:10] show too.

[00:03:10] Okay.

[00:03:11] Okay.

[00:03:13] You know, I feel sorry for him.

[00:03:15] I just know bits and pieces of his story, and I should go back and listen to the episode.

[00:03:20] It is really like, you know, and I told him on the show, like there's always like, you

[00:03:24] know, there's three sides to the story, right?

[00:03:26] Sure.

[00:03:26] There's one side, the other side, and the truth.

[00:03:29] And it was just interesting to hear from his perspective.

[00:03:35] And, you know, he might've been a bad partner or whatever, you know, but like I've seen

[00:03:41] him with his kids and, you know, like he's not like the lovey-dovey dad, you know, but

[00:03:44] like he's, he's, he's got good morals, you know, and he.

[00:03:47] And he's attentive.

[00:03:49] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:03:50] He's not neglectful.

[00:03:51] No, no.

[00:03:52] He's not invisible.

[00:03:53] And he cares about children overall.

[00:03:55] Like he's, if, if there's a hurt kid, he would be the first one to, you know, jump in and

[00:04:00] help the kid, right?

[00:04:01] So, so he has those, like the, the Papa Bear instincts, you know?

[00:04:05] And, and so just to have his kids like basically taken away from him and being fucked over by

[00:04:12] lawyers.

[00:04:13] It's just, man.

[00:04:14] Yeah.

[00:04:15] Yeah.

[00:04:15] It was, I, yeah, it was, it was really shitty.

[00:04:19] So, um, I'm glad he came.

[00:04:20] The whole legal thing is weird.

[00:04:22] Like the whole legal system and, and all that stuff is very strange.

[00:04:26] And it's like, and we touched on that too, that, you know, if it was reversed order, um,

[00:04:31] the shit that his ex is doing, if he was doing like, he would have had his kids taken away

[00:04:35] a long time ago, you know?

[00:04:37] And it's really hard to, to fight it the other way around.

[00:04:40] I think the system tends to default towards women.

[00:04:45] I think so.

[00:04:46] Moms.

[00:04:46] Towards mothers.

[00:04:47] Like, and, and I actually don't entirely disagree with that.

[00:04:50] Oh, no.

[00:04:51] I think, uh, you know, think, well, like I think women have that or moms have that bond

[00:04:56] with that child since day one.

[00:05:00] Before it even shows up.

[00:05:01] Exactly.

[00:05:01] So.

[00:05:02] We don't.

[00:05:02] We don't.

[00:05:03] No.

[00:05:03] No.

[00:05:04] Um, so naturally I think, yeah, that they have that mother's instinct, motherly instinct and,

[00:05:11] um, they just kind of, you know, they naturally are the caretakers.

[00:05:15] Right.

[00:05:15] Yeah.

[00:05:16] But you have that odd, you know, mom that just like is a piece of shit.

[00:05:20] Yeah.

[00:05:21] They're not all good.

[00:05:22] No.

[00:05:22] Like.

[00:05:22] And the same with dads, you know, there's, there's really great dads and there are also

[00:05:27] quite a few horrible dads.

[00:05:28] Yeah.

[00:05:28] For sure there is.

[00:05:29] So.

[00:05:30] I would say more than mothers.

[00:05:31] A hundred percent.

[00:05:32] Yeah.

[00:05:32] Yeah.

[00:05:32] But again, it goes to that like natural instinct thing.

[00:05:35] And so like, I think as a man, you feel, I think as a man you get to make it, you have

[00:05:42] to make a choice.

[00:05:44] I think women are for the most part just inherently born with like with when they create a child,

[00:05:50] they carry a child in their body for, they create it really for however many months.

[00:05:55] Like, um, you said before, like they already have that connection.

[00:06:01] There's like a deep, deep connection in there.

[00:06:03] Yeah.

[00:06:03] And we don't have that.

[00:06:06] So like, we actually have to make a choice to connect with that being that comes out of

[00:06:11] a hundred percent.

[00:06:11] Yeah.

[00:06:12] And like, you have to decide you want to do that.

[00:06:14] You have to decide you want to be interested.

[00:06:16] You want to pay attention.

[00:06:18] Yeah.

[00:06:19] Actually, I don't know what you're talking about because I had that connection with my

[00:06:22] kids.

[00:06:22] Fuck you.

[00:06:23] You did not.

[00:06:24] I did, man.

[00:06:25] Since, since you found out your wife was pregnant.

[00:06:28] Yes.

[00:06:28] Uh, so I actually, I played music to my, my kids while it was like, you know,

[00:06:33] I was growing in my wife's stomach.

[00:06:36] Yeah.

[00:06:36] Okay.

[00:06:37] Fine.

[00:06:37] Yeah.

[00:06:37] I talked to it all the time.

[00:06:39] And also the fact that when the kids were born, like, uh, my daughter was not latching,

[00:06:45] uh, on my wife and she was, she had a hard time like breastfeeding.

[00:06:50] My kids did not want to be with my, my wife.

[00:06:53] My wife said breastfeeding is one of the hardest things.

[00:06:55] Oh, I can't even imagine.

[00:06:57] Yeah.

[00:06:57] To do.

[00:06:58] Uh, but you know, I took the kids and the kids, kids just calmed down right away.

[00:07:02] And so it pissed my wife.

[00:07:03] Do you think it had something to do with what you did while she was pregnant?

[00:07:08] I think it had.

[00:07:09] Like, do you think that had an impact?

[00:07:10] I think a little bit.

[00:07:11] Yeah.

[00:07:11] That has an impact.

[00:07:12] Well, they say that the kids do recognize voices because they, they know the mother's

[00:07:18] voice.

[00:07:18] Yeah.

[00:07:19] Um, and if other people are talking to it while it's growing, um, apparently they do remember

[00:07:27] it.

[00:07:27] But I think, uh, to be honest, I think it was just a fact that like, um, it made my wife

[00:07:32] really anxious that she couldn't breastfeed.

[00:07:35] Sure.

[00:07:35] You know?

[00:07:35] And it was just like also hormones, right?

[00:07:37] Like, so she was anxious naturally.

[00:07:40] So the kids kind of felt it.

[00:07:41] So they, they first year I was the go-to.

[00:07:44] Really?

[00:07:45] They turned one.

[00:07:46] Fuck off dad.

[00:07:49] You know, it's like, oh, literally I'd be sitting on the couch.

[00:07:52] They'll walk around like mom, I'm hungry.

[00:07:54] It's like, ask dad.

[00:07:56] He's right there.

[00:07:58] So, you know, they, that connection came back very fast.

[00:08:01] But yeah, no, as, uh, like they would sleep with me, like, especially my son, he would

[00:08:06] have sometimes three, four hour naps.

[00:08:07] They would be waking both of us up, you know?

[00:08:09] Like, Hey, okay.

[00:08:10] It's time to get up.

[00:08:11] There's like not more than 45 minutes with my wife.

[00:08:14] I bet you missed those three or four hour naps.

[00:08:15] Oh my God.

[00:08:16] I just want to have another kid just, just for those naps.

[00:08:19] Just to do that.

[00:08:20] I'm taking a prayer to leave.

[00:08:22] You can't have another one.

[00:08:23] No, I can't.

[00:08:24] Can, uh, I need to find a donor.

[00:08:27] You can't have me.

[00:08:29] No.

[00:08:30] Actually, I've never, I haven't been tested yet.

[00:08:32] I need to go get tested.

[00:08:33] I am.

[00:08:33] I never did either.

[00:08:34] We should go together.

[00:08:34] Yeah.

[00:08:34] All right.

[00:08:34] I'll go.

[00:08:36] Like same room, same time.

[00:08:37] Yeah.

[00:08:39] We'll use the same magazine.

[00:08:41] Jeez.

[00:08:43] Or we'll just use each other for motivation.

[00:08:45] That'd be so weird.

[00:08:46] Oh, yeah.

[00:08:47] I mean, I could.

[00:08:48] Like, never mind doing it as the two of us in one room.

[00:08:51] Like, that's weird on another level.

[00:08:53] It'd just be weird to do that.

[00:08:54] Man, imagine we show us, like, hi, I'm Tim.

[00:08:56] Hi, I'm Tommy.

[00:08:57] And we're best friends.

[00:08:59] It's like stepbrothers.

[00:09:02] Where they go to job interviews.

[00:09:04] Yeah.

[00:09:04] This would be next level.

[00:09:05] Actually.

[00:09:07] Yeah.

[00:09:08] Yeah.

[00:09:09] Oh, we gotta get tuxes, though.

[00:09:11] Oh, jeez.

[00:09:13] I don't know.

[00:09:14] That seems like it's an arrestable offense.

[00:09:17] Probably.

[00:09:18] Anyways.

[00:09:18] I did never get tested after, though.

[00:09:20] Yeah.

[00:09:21] No.

[00:09:21] My gambling?

[00:09:23] I guess it's a gamble.

[00:09:24] It is.

[00:09:25] It is.

[00:09:25] I should probably do that.

[00:09:26] Well, it depends.

[00:09:27] Do you pull out or?

[00:09:29] I don't want to divulge.

[00:09:31] Okay.

[00:09:31] All those things.

[00:09:32] Okay.

[00:09:32] So, it depends on that, right?

[00:09:34] A little bit of everything.

[00:09:35] Yeah.

[00:09:35] Because, like, if you fully, you know, do that, then you should be safe if you're careful.

[00:09:40] But you never know.

[00:09:41] Even then, like, shit happens, right?

[00:09:43] Well, you're not even 40 yet, bud.

[00:09:44] You could still.

[00:09:46] Well, and men can make kids forever.

[00:09:49] Whatever.

[00:09:50] Well, and that's the thing with the vasectomy.

[00:09:52] Like, it can grow back together, right?

[00:09:54] And there's always a chance.

[00:09:57] Even, at least when I went for the consultation, like, they told me, like, even though they,

[00:10:01] you know, cut it, cauterize it, there's a chance that it will grow back.

[00:10:05] I don't think they ever told me any of that.

[00:10:07] No way.

[00:10:08] Well, I don't know.

[00:10:08] I wasn't really listening.

[00:10:09] And even if it was, like, a small percentage.

[00:10:10] To be honest, I wasn't really listening.

[00:10:12] It's a small percentage, but it can happen.

[00:10:14] Okay.

[00:10:15] I just kind of went and, I don't know, just put my headphones on and it was over.

[00:10:18] Yeah.

[00:10:19] Yeah.

[00:10:21] Are we checking in?

[00:10:22] Yeah, let's check in.

[00:10:23] All right.

[00:10:31] Tommy, timeline and number.

[00:10:39] Now, I should add.

[00:10:41] Okay.

[00:10:42] This might help me, actually.

[00:10:44] Yeah, I'm trying to help you.

[00:10:46] You've had quite the adventurous last, I don't know, six weeks?

[00:10:51] Yeah.

[00:10:52] Two months?

[00:10:53] Two months, yeah.

[00:10:54] I'd say two months.

[00:10:55] Yeah, two months for sure.

[00:10:55] You've had quite an adventurous couple of months.

[00:10:57] Actually, yeah.

[00:10:58] The first two weeks that we went to Ontario, that fucking set me back so bad.

[00:11:04] With, like, work-wise, you know?

[00:11:06] Well, yeah.

[00:11:07] Yeah, I know.

[00:11:09] Yes, you do.

[00:11:10] And then the fact that I got sick as well for almost two weeks.

[00:11:16] Didn't help.

[00:11:17] Didn't help.

[00:11:18] And I was behind on two deadlines.

[00:11:22] And you had shit ton of work for me.

[00:11:24] And it's just like...

[00:11:25] Yeah, those are deadlines.

[00:11:26] Yeah.

[00:11:27] Well, as I don't, you know...

[00:11:29] I always add few days because of all the discounts I'm giving you.

[00:11:33] Oh, my God.

[00:11:37] No, but...

[00:11:38] No, but you've had a lot of activity this summer.

[00:11:41] Really, if we're talking about summer and review, which wasn't really our plan, but maybe that's

[00:11:45] what we'll talk about now.

[00:11:46] We'll see where this goes.

[00:11:47] But just like you, you did a lot of shit this summer.

[00:11:51] Yeah, yeah.

[00:11:51] It was...

[00:11:52] You went a lot of places.

[00:11:53] Yeah, we did.

[00:11:54] Well, it started in May.

[00:11:55] Went to Slovakia, right?

[00:11:56] Yeah.

[00:11:56] For three weeks.

[00:11:58] Came back.

[00:11:58] Did a bunch of camping.

[00:12:00] Did some landscaping.

[00:12:03] You know, then went to Ontario for, well, 10 days.

[00:12:09] Came back.

[00:12:10] Got sick.

[00:12:11] Had to finish a bunch of work.

[00:12:13] And then went to Montreal for a week.

[00:12:15] Yeah.

[00:12:16] Which, fucking...

[00:12:17] I love Montreal.

[00:12:18] Oh, my God.

[00:12:19] That was like...

[00:12:20] It's pretty fun.

[00:12:21] Like, the food was incredible.

[00:12:23] I kind of got pissed off at one of my coworkers.

[00:12:26] Because the first day we landed, right?

[00:12:28] And then, okay, let's find a liquor store, right?

[00:12:30] So, went to just get supplies.

[00:12:32] Just so we have some drinks, right?

[00:12:34] For the hotel.

[00:12:34] And you went for a work event.

[00:12:36] Yeah, yeah.

[00:12:36] It was work, yeah.

[00:12:37] Yeah, yeah.

[00:12:37] And...

[00:12:38] But, yeah.

[00:12:38] It's like, you know, after we come back from a conference...

[00:12:40] No, I'm not...

[00:12:40] We don't have drinks, right?

[00:12:41] I'm the last to judge.

[00:12:43] And so, we found the liquor store.

[00:12:46] Which is so funny.

[00:12:47] Because, like, we didn't realize how much shit there is underground.

[00:12:50] Oh, yeah.

[00:12:51] Tons.

[00:12:51] Yeah.

[00:12:52] And so, we're like...

[00:12:52] We're following the map.

[00:12:53] Fuck, it says liquor store is right here.

[00:12:55] But, this is a fucking parkade.

[00:12:57] Standing on top of it.

[00:12:57] Yeah, exactly.

[00:12:58] So, we're right on top of it.

[00:13:00] But...

[00:13:01] And then, we're walking back.

[00:13:02] Oh, there's McDonald's.

[00:13:03] Let's get some walking burgers.

[00:13:05] I'm like, no, man.

[00:13:06] If I'm getting anything, it's going to be walking poutine, you know?

[00:13:09] Yeah.

[00:13:09] Like...

[00:13:09] Or, like, I want something like a smoked meat sandwich, you know?

[00:13:13] And McDonald's in Montreal.

[00:13:14] Yeah.

[00:13:15] Like, I'm not here to eat McDonald's.

[00:13:17] Like, I refuse.

[00:13:19] Or, like, guys were like, well, should we go to an Italian restaurant?

[00:13:21] I do think it's funny that he called it walking burgers, though.

[00:13:23] That's kind of funny.

[00:13:24] That's pretty funny.

[00:13:24] Yeah, it's just a snack, right?

[00:13:26] I mean, right away, for Winnipeggers, like, oh, shit, this is uphill.

[00:13:29] I'm already hungry, you know?

[00:13:32] It's a different kind of life walking around that city.

[00:13:35] Yeah.

[00:13:35] But, no, it was really nice.

[00:13:37] So, I had lots of ups and downs in the last two months because there's lots of fun things

[00:13:41] that we've done.

[00:13:42] And then, there's go, go, go.

[00:13:44] Yeah.

[00:13:44] And then, lots of fun things.

[00:13:45] And go, go, go.

[00:13:46] And even right now, like, so, in two weeks, we're going to Minneapolis for the weekend.

[00:13:49] Oh, right.

[00:13:54] So, we're going to go see some cool place.

[00:13:57] We're going to go check out Prince's Estate.

[00:13:59] Oh, you were talking about that.

[00:14:00] Yeah.

[00:14:00] Yeah.

[00:14:00] So, then, you know, we're going to go to Mall of America and me and my son are going

[00:14:06] to a concert.

[00:14:08] So, yeah, it's good.

[00:14:10] Girls are going to go shopping.

[00:14:11] Perfect, you know?

[00:14:12] It's awesome.

[00:14:13] So, it's just, I guess it's one of those things, like, we're so freaking busy that we told ourselves

[00:14:18] that we need to have these little mini trips every two, three months because otherwise

[00:14:22] we're going to go crazy, right?

[00:14:24] Well, and you just don't, like, you don't get that kind of focused time together.

[00:14:27] And, like, I go through the same thing, like, I feel like we just come on the show and talk

[00:14:31] about how busy we are all the time.

[00:14:32] And that's, I didn't really want to get into that.

[00:14:35] And we're also in the check-in still, but that doesn't matter.

[00:14:37] Yeah.

[00:14:39] No, but I feel like you don't get that kind of focused time.

[00:14:41] Like, you have to leave the house.

[00:14:43] You have to leave the city.

[00:14:44] You have to, like, when I go to the cabin with my wife and daughter, like, we actually

[00:14:49] spend time together.

[00:14:50] Yeah, yeah.

[00:14:51] Extended periods of time.

[00:14:52] Or whatever, yeah.

[00:14:52] Like, an hour.

[00:14:54] Yeah.

[00:14:54] Or we eat dinner and then, like, my daughter takes 10 bites.

[00:14:57] She's like, I'm full.

[00:14:58] Can I be excused?

[00:14:59] And then she wants to go chat with people.

[00:15:00] It was actually funny.

[00:15:01] Last night we sat down together as a family first time in a long time at home.

[00:15:05] Like, at camping, it's nice.

[00:15:07] Do you guys do that?

[00:15:07] Like, do you have dinners together?

[00:15:09] We try to, but, like, during the week we're so freaking busy.

[00:15:12] Well, and your kids have lots of activities.

[00:15:13] Like, never mind you're busy.

[00:15:14] Like, your daughter has a lot of activities.

[00:15:17] Your son has, he does two or three different extracurricular activities.

[00:15:23] Really?

[00:15:24] Yeah.

[00:15:24] What's he doing?

[00:15:25] Football?

[00:15:25] Yeah, flag football, yeah.

[00:15:26] Oh.

[00:15:27] My niece and nephew play flag football.

[00:15:29] Like, they played on the provincial team.

[00:15:30] Oh, okay.

[00:15:31] Yeah, he really wanted to do it.

[00:15:33] They're, like, super good at it or whatever.

[00:15:34] I don't know.

[00:15:35] I don't know how that works.

[00:15:35] So, yeah, no, we try to, if we can, sit down together.

[00:15:40] But, yeah, it's just, like, it's usually, during the week it's rushed.

[00:15:43] Just at the table, wolf it down.

[00:15:45] Gymnastics.

[00:15:46] Yeah.

[00:15:47] Gabby's going to work.

[00:15:49] Drumming.

[00:15:50] Taekwondo twice a week.

[00:15:51] And he's going to start sparring on Saturdays.

[00:15:53] And then he's going to have football on Saturdays.

[00:15:55] I have hockey.

[00:15:56] We have Toastmasters with my wife.

[00:15:58] Yeah, yeah, just wonderful.

[00:16:00] Podcast, you know.

[00:16:02] Other podcasts, which, you know.

[00:16:03] Too many things.

[00:16:05] Oh, yeah, you have another podcast.

[00:16:06] Yeah, yeah.

[00:16:07] Which is, that one's limited.

[00:16:09] Like, we only do it when I have time.

[00:16:11] Like, I really try to.

[00:16:13] Yeah, you're not, like, on a schedule or anything.

[00:16:14] No, no.

[00:16:15] That was just, like, a fun get-together.

[00:16:18] It's mainly just an excuse for us to get together.

[00:16:20] I'd like to come be on that one again.

[00:16:22] Well, we're doing it tomorrow, but you're busy, so.

[00:16:23] Yeah, no, I can't come to you.

[00:16:24] Yeah, I know.

[00:16:25] But someday.

[00:16:27] So, anyways.

[00:16:28] Anyways.

[00:16:29] Give it all of those things.

[00:16:30] So, last episode I was kind of going up on the high because shit was getting done.

[00:16:36] But now, I'm again, like, I thought I'm done, and then you hit me with more work, so I'm

[00:16:42] like, shit.

[00:16:43] Oh, I'm so fucking sorry.

[00:16:44] No, but I think I'm a good, like, a solid six.

[00:16:47] Okay, that's good.

[00:16:48] Yeah, that's good.

[00:16:49] So, I was really low at one point, and I'm hovering now on the top part of the scale.

[00:16:55] Yeah, okay.

[00:16:55] Yeah, that's good.

[00:16:57] Six is okay.

[00:16:57] Yeah.

[00:16:58] How about you?

[00:16:59] Tell us your busy life.

[00:17:02] It's mostly just work.

[00:17:04] Yeah.

[00:17:05] I don't have, the only other thing.

[00:17:07] Well, but you have other factors, too, that come in, and we're not going to touch on that,

[00:17:11] but.

[00:17:11] Well, yeah, my wife's been a little bit ill, and, like, that's added responsibilities to

[00:17:16] my plate, and I have, what, lawsuits?

[00:17:18] Yeah.

[00:17:19] Yeah, I got those.

[00:17:22] Golf is kind of my one hobby.

[00:17:24] Yeah.

[00:17:25] And so, that I do, and I do it pretty, I make sure I do it fairly often.

[00:17:30] Do you actually, when you're golfing, do you kind of turn your phone off, like, trying

[00:17:35] to not, try not to, no?

[00:17:37] No, no.

[00:17:37] Yeah, absolutely not.

[00:17:37] Okay.

[00:17:38] You should try it, like.

[00:17:39] I will never do that.

[00:17:40] But, like, you should try it, like, once a week, at least, you know, where you, like.

[00:17:43] I will never do that.

[00:17:43] No way.

[00:17:44] No.

[00:17:44] That's impossible.

[00:17:44] Because, like, it would be, you would be almost, like, focused on just, like, the golf

[00:17:49] game, or actually, like, focusing on breathing, and just kind of.

[00:17:53] I don't think I can do that.

[00:17:54] Yeah.

[00:17:54] No.

[00:17:55] You should try.

[00:17:55] You don't know until you try.

[00:17:57] I don't.

[00:17:58] Don't.

[00:17:59] Or, like, try for half, you know, half the golf game, right?

[00:18:01] Like, just try it.

[00:18:02] I can't do it, man.

[00:18:04] Forget it.

[00:18:05] Well, and the thing, not the problem, but the thing is, like, I golf in the mornings.

[00:18:09] Yeah.

[00:18:09] But, like, I'll start, in the middle of summer, I'll start at, like, 6.45.

[00:18:16] Okay.

[00:18:16] And we play pretty quick.

[00:18:17] Yeah.

[00:18:17] But, like, my staff and kind of my business starts operating at 9.

[00:18:23] Okay.

[00:18:23] That's when my staff start.

[00:18:24] That's kind of when everything gets going.

[00:18:26] So you don't necessarily get.

[00:18:27] So, like, I want to be available.

[00:18:29] Like, I want to.

[00:18:30] I like the fact that I'm available.

[00:18:32] Yeah.

[00:18:33] We're in growth.

[00:18:34] We're in a growth mode.

[00:18:35] Yeah.

[00:18:35] And we're building a business.

[00:18:36] Like, that takes time.

[00:18:37] You know.

[00:18:37] Yeah, yeah.

[00:18:38] That takes time and lots of energy and attentiveness.

[00:18:41] Yeah.

[00:18:41] And, like, I'm not in a phase yet where I'm, like, where I even look forward to the opportunity

[00:18:48] to, like, disengage.

[00:18:49] Yeah.

[00:18:50] Like, I just don't want to.

[00:18:51] Well, and also, you enjoy what you're doing, too.

[00:18:53] I do.

[00:18:54] For sure, I do.

[00:18:55] Yeah.

[00:18:55] Yeah.

[00:18:56] I wouldn't say every single minute all the time.

[00:18:58] Yeah.

[00:18:58] But, like, yes.

[00:18:59] Overall, I absolutely do.

[00:19:01] I get a lot out of it.

[00:19:03] It's very much a reward for me.

[00:19:04] Yeah.

[00:19:04] It's very much, like, makes me feel good.

[00:19:07] It makes me feel useful.

[00:19:08] It gives me purpose.

[00:19:09] Like, those are all good things.

[00:19:10] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:11] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:13] So, I golf in summer.

[00:19:14] I'm getting a little nervous because golf season is over, like, next week.

[00:19:19] Yeah.

[00:19:19] And so, like, I always hate that part of the year.

[00:19:24] And so, we're trying to make a plan to, like, do something different at the same time those

[00:19:30] same days.

[00:19:31] Yeah.

[00:19:31] Because I'm kind of in that routine where, like, that's the time I get to do the thing

[00:19:36] I want to do.

[00:19:37] Yeah.

[00:19:37] Yeah.

[00:19:37] Yeah.

[00:19:38] We play the same two days every week.

[00:19:40] And then, like, if it works out, we'll slide another one in somewhere or whatever.

[00:19:44] Yeah.

[00:19:44] But, like, we have two consistent mornings every week.

[00:19:47] Same, me and two other guys, always the same people.

[00:19:50] Yeah.

[00:19:50] And, like, that's fun.

[00:19:51] I love that.

[00:19:52] Yeah.

[00:19:52] It's really good for me.

[00:19:53] It's good for, like, it's good for my mental health.

[00:19:55] It's...

[00:19:56] For sure.

[00:19:56] Like, you're outside.

[00:19:57] Being outside, walking around.

[00:19:59] Like, you're getting exercise.

[00:20:00] Yeah.

[00:20:00] I'm not riding a cart, like, very often at all.

[00:20:02] Yeah, we talked about it.

[00:20:03] Yeah.

[00:20:04] For the most part, I walk.

[00:20:05] Like, my knee's been in shit for the last month and a half.

[00:20:10] So, like, I've ridden a little bit.

[00:20:11] But, like, I'm still walking.

[00:20:13] Yeah.

[00:20:13] Like, almost all the time.

[00:20:15] Yeah, yeah.

[00:20:15] And I enjoy it.

[00:20:16] I actually like walking.

[00:20:18] Yeah.

[00:20:18] Like, it's...

[00:20:18] I get a different level of enjoyment from golf when I walk.

[00:20:21] Well, it's...

[00:20:21] When I ride, I just get too drunk because there's too many cup holders.

[00:20:24] Yeah.

[00:20:24] Yeah.

[00:20:25] But, like, when you're walking, like, your body is actually, like, circulating the blood

[00:20:28] and, like, oxygen goes to your brain and all that, right?

[00:20:31] Right.

[00:20:31] It's faster.

[00:20:32] You're getting sun.

[00:20:32] Yeah.

[00:20:32] And, like, in the middle of summer, you're getting that sunlight right away.

[00:20:35] And it's...

[00:20:35] At 6, 7 in the morning, it's still not super hot.

[00:20:38] No, it's great.

[00:20:39] Yeah.

[00:20:40] I remember...

[00:20:40] I used to do that when I worked midnights.

[00:20:42] I would work till 6.30 and I would book a tea time at 7.

[00:20:44] Oh, that's so smart.

[00:20:45] And then I would play till, like, usually, like, you know, 10 or so.

[00:20:49] Yeah.

[00:20:50] And then come home and pass out.

[00:20:52] Full nap.

[00:20:53] Like, just dead.

[00:20:53] And I would have, like, a, you know, 4, 5-hour nap.

[00:20:56] This must have been before you had kids.

[00:20:58] No, it was during, but they were, like, they were in daycare, you know.

[00:21:01] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[00:21:01] Okay, so they weren't home.

[00:21:02] They weren't home, yeah.

[00:21:03] So then I woke up when the family got home.

[00:21:05] So it was pretty good, yeah.

[00:21:08] But, yeah, it's...

[00:21:09] Didn't do that too often.

[00:21:10] But, yeah, the days I did it, it was awesome.

[00:21:12] Yeah, that's good.

[00:21:12] So I would say that I'm probably a 5.5.

[00:21:21] Okay.

[00:21:22] Yeah.

[00:21:23] Okay, that's...

[00:21:24] For the last little while, that's actually not too bad.

[00:21:26] Yeah.

[00:21:27] Like, because you run a 7.

[00:21:29] I haven't for a while, but normally I have, historically, yeah.

[00:21:33] Yeah, so that, like, that's almost, like, that's your 10.

[00:21:36] Yeah, right, yeah.

[00:21:37] I don't think you ever went past 7.

[00:21:40] There might have been 1.

[00:21:41] Maybe, yeah.

[00:21:41] We have to go back in the episodes and check.

[00:21:42] But, yeah, so 5.

[00:21:44] 5.5 is not bad, yeah.

[00:21:45] It's okay.

[00:21:46] Okay.

[00:21:46] I'm tired, but that's fine.

[00:21:48] Everybody's tired.

[00:21:49] Yeah.

[00:21:49] It's fine.

[00:21:50] I'm, uh...

[00:21:51] You know what?

[00:21:52] Golf season's over and I'm not looking forward to this fucking three months of no drinking,

[00:21:56] so...

[00:21:57] Okay, so...

[00:21:58] Yeah, let's talk about it.

[00:21:59] Okay.

[00:21:59] That's this big, heavy rain cloud that's hovering over me and it's fucking driving me nuts.

[00:22:06] I almost want it to just be fucking November already because I'm tired of thinking about

[00:22:09] it.

[00:22:10] Yeah, yeah.

[00:22:10] Well, um, are we doing anything before it starts?

[00:22:15] Oh, we...

[00:22:15] I was just talking to another buddy of mine today.

[00:22:18] We were like, fuck, we should...

[00:22:19] We should really start it off with a bad hangover.

[00:22:21] We should have a day.

[00:22:23] Okay, so why don't you...

[00:22:24] Remind ourselves why we're not going to do that.

[00:22:26] Okay, so why don't you explain it...

[00:22:27] I know we talked about it, but explain it to our audience, listeners.

[00:22:31] We're taking...

[00:22:32] What are we doing?

[00:22:33] We're taking November, December, January off booze.

[00:22:37] So dry.

[00:22:37] Excluding seven days.

[00:22:39] Excluding...

[00:22:39] Is it seven?

[00:22:40] Is it seven?

[00:22:41] There's a seven day...

[00:22:42] Or is it eight?

[00:22:43] No, it's seven.

[00:22:44] Is it seven?

[00:22:44] Seven.

[00:22:45] Do you want it to be eight?

[00:22:46] Well...

[00:22:46] I'll make it eight.

[00:22:47] I'll make it 12 right now.

[00:22:49] Hold on, I just need to look at...

[00:22:50] No, seven days.

[00:22:51] Okay.

[00:22:52] It's seven days.

[00:22:53] Because obviously Christmas and New Year's, we want to...

[00:22:55] We want to enjoy the holidays.

[00:22:56] Well, you can choose whatever you want.

[00:22:57] I mean, that's what I'm choosing.

[00:22:59] You get a seven day consecutive period where you can take a reprieve from the...

[00:23:06] From the sobriety, I guess.

[00:23:08] So just to let you know...

[00:23:09] Oh, sure.

[00:23:10] Christmas is on a Wednesday.

[00:23:12] Okay.

[00:23:13] What's wrong with that?

[00:23:14] And, uh...

[00:23:15] Well, I don't know.

[00:23:16] I was thinking, like, we could already have drinks, like, the weekend before.

[00:23:20] I know, but for me, like, every day is the same.

[00:23:22] No, I know.

[00:23:22] For you, but I'm just thinking, like, you know, the weekend before, it's like, usually

[00:23:26] there's, like, Christmas parties, friends get together, you know?

[00:23:29] Oh, yeah.

[00:23:29] You know what I mean?

[00:23:30] Yeah, yeah.

[00:23:30] And then...

[00:23:31] But then, if you started on the...

[00:23:33] Let's say you started on a Saturday, the 21st, well, that only goes till 28th.

[00:23:39] I would rather...

[00:23:41] Seven days.

[00:23:41] I would rather drink around Christmas time.

[00:23:46] I actually don't care if I drink at New Year's.

[00:23:49] Yeah, I don't care either.

[00:23:50] Like, New Year's is like...

[00:23:51] So, like, maybe let's coordinate weeks.

[00:23:53] But, like, I would actually be happy to take the weekend before Christmas.

[00:23:58] Like, that week.

[00:23:59] We should get really high on New Year's.

[00:24:02] I mean, I don't smoke weed often, so I think that would be freaking hilarious.

[00:24:06] Okay.

[00:24:08] You know a guy that can hook you up, right?

[00:24:10] Yeah.

[00:24:12] Yeah, we quit drinking for three months, but we started doing ecstasy every day.

[00:24:19] Okay, so we're sticking to the seven days.

[00:24:21] Let's do it.

[00:24:21] Yeah, no, that's what we decided.

[00:24:23] Let's be strict about it, yeah.

[00:24:24] We can't start making exceptions, or I'm just going to not do it.

[00:24:27] Yeah, that's fair.

[00:24:27] Because then I'm going to talk my way into not having to do it.

[00:24:29] That's right, yeah.

[00:24:29] And, like, I got to...

[00:24:30] Oh, well, we pushed it here.

[00:24:32] Yeah, exactly.

[00:24:33] You know what?

[00:24:33] Let's do December, January, February.

[00:24:36] Yeah.

[00:24:36] Yeah, right?

[00:24:37] I'm still telling you I'm taking the first seven days.

[00:24:43] So that's what we're doing.

[00:24:45] So I think we've covered this lots on the show, but, like, I'm a fairly regular drinker.

[00:24:52] Oh, that, yes.

[00:24:53] Like, I drink every day.

[00:24:54] Yeah.

[00:24:54] I don't.

[00:24:55] You don't, apparently.

[00:24:56] I'm better than you.

[00:24:57] I don't believe you, but that's fine.

[00:25:00] But I have a drink or some amount of drinks every day.

[00:25:05] Mm-hmm.

[00:25:06] So it's probably, A, it's probably time for a break.

[00:25:08] Just to let you know how much I drink, like, I have not had a whiskey since last Friday,

[00:25:14] since you were here for my birthday.

[00:25:17] Yeah, but you've had beers and American Vintage Ice Teas.

[00:25:22] No, I've had beers on Saturday because I was at the Madison Ball of Music Awards, and

[00:25:27] I had a shot of tequila.

[00:25:29] Then I went to the...

[00:25:30] No, I'm lying.

[00:25:31] That was a weekend.

[00:25:32] I'm lying.

[00:25:32] Yeah, you're full of shit.

[00:25:33] I went to the lake.

[00:25:34] I had whiskeys.

[00:25:35] Yes, sorry.

[00:25:36] Oh, wow.

[00:25:37] Okay, I was at the lake, but at home.

[00:25:38] You're so much better than me.

[00:25:39] At home.

[00:25:40] At home.

[00:25:40] Oh, wow.

[00:25:41] Sorry.

[00:25:45] That really didn't go your way, did it?

[00:25:47] No, no, no.

[00:25:47] But, okay, but, like, here, that was a week at home, and I haven't had whiskey, even on

[00:25:51] the weekend.

[00:25:51] This past weekend, I haven't had whiskey.

[00:25:53] By a whiskey, like, a drink?

[00:25:55] Yeah, like, not a single whiskey, and then I just had...

[00:25:57] Oh, like, a beer?

[00:25:58] Like...

[00:25:59] No, no.

[00:25:59] Wine?

[00:26:00] Wine?

[00:26:00] I had wine last night with my wife.

[00:26:02] Okay.

[00:26:03] But nothing during the week.

[00:26:04] That's all the same thing.

[00:26:06] But nothing during the week.

[00:26:07] You're specifying whiskey, like, that's the one that...

[00:26:09] I didn't drink whiskey for three months.

[00:26:12] Yeah.

[00:26:12] I switched to gin.

[00:26:14] No, no, no.

[00:26:15] Like, that's the same shit.

[00:26:15] No, I did not have any alcohol during the week.

[00:26:18] Okay.

[00:26:19] Zero.

[00:26:20] Yeah.

[00:26:20] Like...

[00:26:21] Yeah, like, nothing.

[00:26:22] All week?

[00:26:22] All week, yeah.

[00:26:23] Like, and not even Friday and Saturday, yeah.

[00:26:25] What did you...

[00:26:26] No, Friday I had one beer.

[00:26:27] Sorry.

[00:26:28] Sorry.

[00:26:28] Because I went to hockey.

[00:26:30] It just keeps getting fucking better.

[00:26:33] See, this is...

[00:26:34] Okay, but this is prime example why it's probably time we take a break.

[00:26:37] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:26:37] Like, just...

[00:26:38] It becomes such a part of...

[00:26:40] Regular part of your life.

[00:26:41] But here's...

[00:26:42] Okay, Spray, you want to say something?

[00:26:43] Okay.

[00:26:43] I'm already prepping for this three months because...

[00:26:46] So, Friday...

[00:26:47] Last Friday, my hockey started.

[00:26:49] Yeah.

[00:26:50] And so, you know, we go have beers.

[00:26:52] I have usually a beer before hockey and then have a beer after hockey and then we go upstairs.

[00:26:57] And then a couple beers after.

[00:26:57] Yeah, exactly.

[00:26:57] So, I was like, okay, I got there.

[00:26:59] I'm like, I didn't feel like a beer beforehand.

[00:27:01] So, because I knew I'm going to be fucking hurting.

[00:27:04] Was it your first one?

[00:27:05] First one, yeah, yeah.

[00:27:05] Oh, that must have been...

[00:27:06] How old was that?

[00:27:07] Did you throw up?

[00:27:07] Jesus Christ.

[00:27:08] No, I didn't.

[00:27:08] But we were sitting on the bench and looking at the clock like, it's been 20 minutes?

[00:27:12] What the hell?

[00:27:13] It feels like we've been on the ice for an hour, you know?

[00:27:16] So, but yeah, then I had one beer after and then we went upstairs and I was going to buy

[00:27:20] a beer, but then I'm like, you know what?

[00:27:22] Just give me a Diet Coke and I got some wings and that's all I did.

[00:27:25] I was like, you know what?

[00:27:25] This is like a good practice for me to...

[00:27:27] See, the problem is you say that and my immediate reaction is like, well, that sounds shitty.

[00:27:32] No, but I...

[00:27:33] Again, probably time to take a break.

[00:27:35] I've taken four months off from drinking, yeah, before.

[00:27:38] I don't know if I have.

[00:27:39] And I showed up to a party with a 12-pack of Bud Zeros and I was chugging them with the

[00:27:44] other guys that were chugging.

[00:27:45] Can we make an agreement that during this three months, we're not doing that?

[00:27:51] I like...

[00:27:52] We're not the Bud Zero guys.

[00:27:53] See, but...

[00:27:54] I don't want to be the Bud Zero guy.

[00:27:55] Do you like beer and clam?

[00:27:56] No.

[00:27:57] Oh, okay.

[00:27:58] See, I love beer and clam.

[00:27:59] And if you add Clamato to Bud Zero...

[00:28:02] For our American listeners, Clamato is...

[00:28:06] Is...

[00:28:06] Clam juice and tomato juice mixed together.

[00:28:09] It's tomato, like vegetable juice and with clam sauce.

[00:28:13] Yeah.

[00:28:14] And so...

[00:28:15] Sounds super appetizing, I know.

[00:28:16] It's delicious.

[00:28:17] It is actually...

[00:28:18] I like a good Caesar, so like I can't argue.

[00:28:20] Yeah, but you add...

[00:28:21] You add a little bit to a non-alcoholic beer, it tastes just like beer and clam.

[00:28:28] All right.

[00:28:29] Yeah.

[00:28:29] And that's how I learned to enjoy non-alcoholic beer.

[00:28:32] That's like telling me an impossible burger tastes like a fucking burger.

[00:28:35] Yeah.

[00:28:35] Yeah, exactly.

[00:28:35] It doesn't.

[00:28:37] Yeah.

[00:28:38] It's...

[00:28:38] You gotta trick your mind.

[00:28:39] But hey, you do your thing.

[00:28:40] You do your thing.

[00:28:40] That's what helped me not drink for four months.

[00:28:43] And I showed up to a party...

[00:28:45] When did you not drink for four months?

[00:28:46] Oh, this was before...

[00:28:47] Not since I've known you.

[00:28:48] No, no, no.

[00:28:49] That was before that, yeah.

[00:28:50] That was...

[00:28:51] Well, that was the last...

[00:28:53] I started drinking, and it was four months because we had our last show with my band.

[00:28:59] Okay.

[00:29:00] And so we knew each other, but we weren't like friends necessarily.

[00:29:03] We knew each other through the show.

[00:29:06] But yeah, it was my band's last show.

[00:29:08] And so I was like, fuck it, I'm having drinks.

[00:29:11] Trust me, it didn't take a lot to get me drunk after four months.

[00:29:15] That was fun.

[00:29:16] It was...

[00:29:16] I was a cheap drunk then.

[00:29:18] I'm curious what three months off is gonna do.

[00:29:20] I felt great, honestly.

[00:29:22] Oh, no.

[00:29:23] I'm gonna be super skinny, and I'm for sure gonna feel lovely.

[00:29:27] But I don't wanna...

[00:29:29] I don't care.

[00:29:32] I know it's important.

[00:29:33] I know it's a thing.

[00:29:34] And like...

[00:29:35] And I think you drink as you need to drink.

[00:29:37] I think you drink as you like.

[00:29:38] I love drinking.

[00:29:39] You like the taste of...

[00:29:41] Yeah.

[00:29:41] I rarely get drunk.

[00:29:43] Yeah.

[00:29:43] Like, I don't get drunk that often.

[00:29:45] But you know what helped me during...

[00:29:47] When I quit for the four months,

[00:29:51] and I was kind of worried prior to that,

[00:29:53] and that is one of the reasons why I just kept going,

[00:29:55] because I started doing like...

[00:29:56] I'm gonna take sober October.

[00:29:58] Yeah.

[00:29:58] You know, I'm gonna do that for a month.

[00:30:00] And then I just...

[00:30:01] I think October switched to November,

[00:30:04] like during the week,

[00:30:05] and it just wasn't like...

[00:30:06] You know, it wasn't like,

[00:30:07] ooh, it's November 1st, let's have a drink.

[00:30:09] I was just doing something I can't remember,

[00:30:11] but like...

[00:30:12] I'm like, ah, you know what?

[00:30:12] I'm just gonna fucking keep going.

[00:30:14] See how long I can push this.

[00:30:15] If I really feel like a drink,

[00:30:17] I'm gonna have one.

[00:30:17] Yeah.

[00:30:18] And then it almost turned into a little challenge,

[00:30:20] but my dad did get the ultimatum

[00:30:24] when my mom was pregnant with me,

[00:30:26] because he was an alcoholic.

[00:30:28] Okay.

[00:30:28] Yeah.

[00:30:30] My uncles basically died of liver failure

[00:30:32] because of the drinking.

[00:30:34] You know, my culture...

[00:30:35] In my culture, there's a lot of drinking.

[00:30:37] Yeah.

[00:30:38] And so...

[00:30:38] So it's something you probably need to keep an eye on.

[00:30:41] Well, and it was one of those things

[00:30:42] that I noticed that I got home

[00:30:45] and I couldn't go without having a drink.

[00:30:49] You know?

[00:30:50] Yeah, okay.

[00:30:50] Just like, you know, my wife pointed it out

[00:30:52] and I started noticing it

[00:30:53] that it's just like,

[00:30:55] oh yeah, like I would come home,

[00:30:56] first thing would be crack a beer.

[00:30:58] Yeah.

[00:30:58] And then have another one

[00:30:59] and then have a whiskey or rum and whatever.

[00:31:01] And then, you know, next thing you know,

[00:31:02] I'm just like useless

[00:31:03] and I want to go to sleep.

[00:31:05] Now, part of me wishes

[00:31:06] I would be doing that

[00:31:07] because I would go to sleep earlier.

[00:31:08] It's so much better.

[00:31:09] Yeah, exactly.

[00:31:10] Actually, you wouldn't.

[00:31:11] No.

[00:31:13] But, yeah, it's just like...

[00:31:15] So I was like,

[00:31:16] oh, you know what?

[00:31:16] I'm going to see how long I can push it.

[00:31:18] And so I went four months

[00:31:19] and what helped me realize, like,

[00:31:21] before that,

[00:31:22] I was really drinking just to get drunk.

[00:31:25] Yeah, okay.

[00:31:26] And after that, I could like...

[00:31:29] If I'm really in a mood for a drink,

[00:31:31] I'll make myself one drink

[00:31:33] and I'll sip it,

[00:31:34] I'll enjoy it,

[00:31:35] I'll have just one.

[00:31:37] Yeah.

[00:31:38] And so that's what we started doing

[00:31:39] with my wife now

[00:31:40] is that I won't drink

[00:31:42] unless I'll ask her,

[00:31:44] like, hey, would you like a drink?

[00:31:45] And if she says yes,

[00:31:46] then we'll have one drink

[00:31:47] or two drinks, whatever.

[00:31:48] Okay.

[00:31:49] But, like, we'll hop in the hot tub

[00:31:50] or just sit in the front

[00:31:51] or whatever.

[00:31:52] But we do that together

[00:31:53] and it's kind of...

[00:31:54] It kind of became our thing now,

[00:31:55] you know?

[00:31:56] Yeah, okay.

[00:31:56] So, and it helped me

[00:31:58] kind of appreciate that,

[00:32:00] the whiskey,

[00:32:01] the taste of whiskey.

[00:32:02] Before, it was, like,

[00:32:03] always, like, rum and Coke,

[00:32:04] you know,

[00:32:04] and just mix it

[00:32:05] because I didn't really

[00:32:07] necessarily enjoy

[00:32:08] the taste of alcohol.

[00:32:09] I was just drinking it

[00:32:10] to get drunk.

[00:32:10] Like a good rum and Coke.

[00:32:12] You know what?

[00:32:12] Actually, I had white rum and Coke

[00:32:15] just recently

[00:32:15] and I was like,

[00:32:16] oh, my God,

[00:32:17] I used to drink a lot of it before.

[00:32:18] It just brought up memories.

[00:32:19] I'm like,

[00:32:20] oh, there's a taste.

[00:32:22] But, yeah,

[00:32:23] it's like,

[00:32:24] it's very sugary,

[00:32:25] so I try not to drink rum overall,

[00:32:27] but, you know,

[00:32:30] try to enjoy it more on the rocks

[00:32:31] and that's why

[00:32:31] I usually top it up with water

[00:32:33] and stay hydrated.

[00:32:36] Yeah, that's not a thing, but...

[00:32:38] You know what?

[00:32:39] Though it is, though.

[00:32:40] Like, I mean,

[00:32:41] I can...

[00:32:41] Like, if we were to now...

[00:32:43] I don't think that's actually a thing.

[00:32:44] No, it is

[00:32:45] because I don't get hangovers

[00:32:46] if I just stick to whiskey.

[00:32:47] I don't get them either.

[00:32:49] Yeah, but if I stick to whiskey,

[00:32:51] only whiskey,

[00:32:52] I'm fine.

[00:32:53] As soon as I can have

[00:32:55] 20 whiskeys

[00:32:56] and have one beer,

[00:32:57] I'll have a headache the next day.

[00:32:59] Really?

[00:32:59] Yeah.

[00:32:59] If I mix it,

[00:33:00] I get a hangover, yeah.

[00:33:02] So...

[00:33:03] I don't like beer.

[00:33:05] I need to be in the mood.

[00:33:07] I...

[00:33:07] I like a good Guinness

[00:33:08] from time to time.

[00:33:09] Yeah, that's right.

[00:33:09] You do.

[00:33:10] But only, like, one.

[00:33:12] I just realized, like,

[00:33:13] I bought a 30 case of...

[00:33:16] I guess you're drinking

[00:33:16] on the show today.

[00:33:17] Yeah.

[00:33:18] We're talking about booze.

[00:33:19] Talking about booze.

[00:33:19] We didn't even actually

[00:33:20] have a plan for anything.

[00:33:21] And we're taking three months off, right?

[00:33:25] No, but I realized that

[00:33:27] I bought a 30 pack of beer

[00:33:30] before this camping season

[00:33:32] and I still brought back, like,

[00:33:34] eight or nine beers.

[00:33:36] Well, you better finish them.

[00:33:37] November's coming.

[00:33:39] Don't worry.

[00:33:40] All my booze will be gone.

[00:33:41] It will be dry.

[00:33:44] No, but it was just like,

[00:33:45] I didn't drink much beer.

[00:33:46] Now, whiskey,

[00:33:47] I think I...

[00:33:47] Even at the lake,

[00:33:48] I went maybe two

[00:33:50] or maybe three bottles of that.

[00:33:52] Like, not even that.

[00:33:53] No, I wasn't...

[00:33:54] Like, honestly,

[00:33:55] I wasn't drinking that much

[00:33:56] this summer, yeah.

[00:33:57] That's good.

[00:33:57] Yeah.

[00:33:58] Well, I drink more with you

[00:33:59] here on the show

[00:34:01] or hanging out than...

[00:34:03] But that's okay because...

[00:34:04] I think most people do.

[00:34:05] But I don't mind having the...

[00:34:08] Like, I put it together

[00:34:10] with, like, socializing, you know?

[00:34:11] Yeah, yeah.

[00:34:11] So, like,

[00:34:12] I will have my drinks with you

[00:34:14] and I'm not limiting myself

[00:34:15] to just one or two, you know?

[00:34:17] Sure.

[00:34:17] You're going to have drinks, right?

[00:34:17] Yeah, yeah.

[00:34:19] But on a regular day,

[00:34:21] I'm just cutting it out

[00:34:22] and not having...

[00:34:22] Okay.

[00:34:23] Yeah.

[00:34:23] Well...

[00:34:23] So I don't think I'm going to struggle

[00:34:24] with the three months.

[00:34:25] I would say I,

[00:34:27] in all honesty,

[00:34:28] I think the first month

[00:34:30] will be pretty tough for me.

[00:34:32] For sure,

[00:34:33] the first couple weeks.

[00:34:34] My one friend,

[00:34:38] he said to me,

[00:34:39] I told him I was doing this

[00:34:40] and he got all mad at me.

[00:34:42] Couldn't believe you.

[00:34:43] He was like,

[00:34:44] why the fuck would you do that

[00:34:45] to the rest of us?

[00:34:47] I was like,

[00:34:48] fuck you.

[00:34:49] That's true.

[00:34:50] He was joking.

[00:34:50] That is true.

[00:34:51] He was joking,

[00:34:52] but, like,

[00:34:52] I actually believe

[00:34:54] there's some truth there

[00:34:55] whereas, like,

[00:34:55] the first couple weeks

[00:34:56] is probably going to be...

[00:34:58] It'll be just a shock.

[00:34:59] I'm going to be a little grouchy.

[00:35:00] Yeah.

[00:35:01] Like, there's no way I will...

[00:35:01] It'll definitely be a shock

[00:35:03] to your body.

[00:35:03] Yeah.

[00:35:04] Well, and I'm going to, like,

[00:35:05] get back on my diet super clean,

[00:35:07] so, like,

[00:35:07] I'm just...

[00:35:08] Are you going to do

[00:35:08] your reset stuff?

[00:35:09] Yeah, I'm just doing it.

[00:35:10] Well, I guess that helps you

[00:35:10] because you've done that

[00:35:11] for a month, right?

[00:35:12] I'm just going to do it.

[00:35:13] Yeah.

[00:35:13] And so,

[00:35:15] if I'm giving stuff up,

[00:35:17] then fuck it,

[00:35:18] let's go.

[00:35:19] Shit, I should do that, too.

[00:35:20] I should quit smoking, too,

[00:35:21] but...

[00:35:21] Do it.

[00:35:22] Let's not do that one

[00:35:23] at the same time.

[00:35:24] I'll...

[00:35:24] Just smoke weed

[00:35:25] and do drugs.

[00:35:26] I'll go to jail.

[00:35:26] I'll end up in jail.

[00:35:27] So, we're going to taper

[00:35:29] that one off,

[00:35:30] but, no,

[00:35:31] I'm just...

[00:35:32] I am actually,

[00:35:33] in a way,

[00:35:33] looking forward

[00:35:34] to the three months off,

[00:35:35] but in another way,

[00:35:37] I'm terrified of it.

[00:35:39] Yeah.

[00:35:39] And that's actually

[00:35:42] why I think

[00:35:42] it's a good time to do it.

[00:35:44] For sure.

[00:35:45] Like, I'm not concerned

[00:35:46] I can't do it.

[00:35:47] I'm just terrified

[00:35:48] of doing it.

[00:35:49] Well, you can do it

[00:35:50] because you've done it

[00:35:51] for a month,

[00:35:52] so...

[00:35:52] If you can do it

[00:35:53] for a month,

[00:35:53] it's actually,

[00:35:53] at that point,

[00:35:55] two or three is easier.

[00:35:56] And if you...

[00:35:56] Yeah, again,

[00:35:57] you're going to do it

[00:35:58] together with your reset.

[00:36:00] Yeah.

[00:36:01] You've done it

[00:36:01] multiple times,

[00:36:02] so...

[00:36:02] the whole thing, yeah.

[00:36:03] You were in that mindset,

[00:36:05] and...

[00:36:05] Yeah.

[00:36:05] Yeah, you will be grouchy

[00:36:06] as hell, but...

[00:36:07] Oh, yeah.

[00:36:07] These shows are going to get

[00:36:08] real interesting in November.

[00:36:11] Maybe we should pre-record.

[00:36:12] I'm going to interview you.

[00:36:15] Let's do it, actually.

[00:36:17] Well, and we should, like...

[00:36:18] During that three months,

[00:36:20] like, we should...

[00:36:20] Well, we'll...

[00:36:21] For sure the first month,

[00:36:22] we should be talking about it.

[00:36:22] We'll give you guys progress

[00:36:23] on, like, what...

[00:36:24] Yeah.

[00:36:24] How we're feeling, and...

[00:36:25] You know what?

[00:36:26] I'm going to...

[00:36:27] Me swearing at everybody.

[00:36:29] What you...

[00:36:29] We should do is...

[00:36:31] Take a five-minute break.

[00:36:33] Sure, we can do that,

[00:36:34] but before we go on break,

[00:36:36] we'll record a show

[00:36:40] right before we start that,

[00:36:42] and we should do our blood test,

[00:36:44] like, to...

[00:36:45] Like, what kind?

[00:36:46] Isn't that, like, where you, like...

[00:36:48] Well, I got to go for, like,

[00:36:50] my cholesterol's been high,

[00:36:51] so I got to go for a blood test

[00:36:52] actually soon.

[00:36:54] But, like, we should almost get, like...

[00:36:56] We could do, like, a real blood test.

[00:36:58] Yeah, yeah.

[00:36:58] Like, we should do that,

[00:36:59] and then, like...

[00:37:00] Never had one.

[00:37:00] And then just really, like, see, like,

[00:37:02] okay, like, three months

[00:37:03] of not drinking

[00:37:05] and trying to do the reset,

[00:37:06] like, what it does to our bodies,

[00:37:08] and then...

[00:37:09] Fuck, it would be awesome

[00:37:10] if you could get, like,

[00:37:10] a professional on here

[00:37:11] to talk about it, right?

[00:37:13] Like...

[00:37:13] I'll do...

[00:37:14] We should get Dr. D on here.

[00:37:15] What kind of blood tests?

[00:37:17] I've asked him.

[00:37:17] He's not ready.

[00:37:18] I know.

[00:37:19] What kind of blood tests

[00:37:20] do we have to get?

[00:37:21] We can put a screen here

[00:37:22] or something.

[00:37:23] He can sit behind the curtain.

[00:37:26] What kind of blood tests

[00:37:27] would we have to get?

[00:37:28] Well, I need to go for my...

[00:37:30] We should ask

[00:37:32] the unscripted guys.

[00:37:34] Actually, yeah.

[00:37:34] They'll know.

[00:37:35] Yeah.

[00:37:36] Phone room.

[00:37:36] We can definitely...

[00:37:37] I don't have their phone number.

[00:37:38] Well, we have them on Instagram.

[00:37:40] Well, we have them on Instagram.

[00:37:41] Let's try calling them.

[00:37:42] Okay.

[00:37:42] You do it.

[00:37:43] But I know I need to go

[00:37:45] for my cholesterol,

[00:37:46] and my sugar was also high, so...

[00:37:48] Hey, Tommy.

[00:37:49] Among all the episodes

[00:37:50] we've recorded,

[00:37:51] you know,

[00:37:51] there's one common theme,

[00:37:53] and that's getting therapy.

[00:37:56] We've talked about it lots.

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[00:38:00] making that first phone call.

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[00:39:40] Okay, so we couldn't

[00:39:41] get a hold of anybody,

[00:39:42] any professional.

[00:39:44] Failed attempt.

[00:39:45] Yeah, very failed,

[00:39:46] but you know what?

[00:39:48] I'm not sure if the guys

[00:39:50] from Men's Health

[00:39:51] Scripted listen to

[00:39:52] every episode,

[00:39:53] but if you guys do,

[00:39:55] you know,

[00:39:55] shoot us a message

[00:39:56] what you think.

[00:39:57] Yeah, or we can message them

[00:39:58] maybe as better

[00:39:59] than an impromptu call.

[00:40:00] They're probably working.

[00:40:02] I'm trying to work

[00:40:03] on social media.

[00:40:03] Cam's probably like

[00:40:05] out shooting guns

[00:40:06] in his backyard

[00:40:07] or something.

[00:40:08] But no,

[00:40:10] I'd like to see,

[00:40:10] I would really like to see,

[00:40:12] like,

[00:40:12] I'm going to get blood work

[00:40:14] for myself done.

[00:40:15] I'll tell my doctor,

[00:40:16] like, look,

[00:40:17] we're taking three months off

[00:40:18] of no drinking,

[00:40:20] and I know my doctor

[00:40:22] does not agree with me

[00:40:24] going on the keto

[00:40:26] because it's high fat

[00:40:29] and because my cholesterol

[00:40:30] is high.

[00:40:31] Yeah, it's a myth.

[00:40:33] Well,

[00:40:34] and it's one of those things,

[00:40:36] like who you talk to.

[00:40:37] One person believes in this,

[00:40:39] the other person believes

[00:40:39] in that, right?

[00:40:40] I think,

[00:40:41] I honestly-

[00:40:42] Doctors are just giving you

[00:40:43] their best-

[00:40:45] Advice.

[00:40:46] Medical advice.

[00:40:47] And they all believe

[00:40:48] different things.

[00:40:48] Yeah.

[00:40:49] They all have different

[00:40:49] educations.

[00:40:50] Honestly, when I did-

[00:40:51] I'm not discrediting

[00:40:51] any of them for whatever.

[00:40:52] When I did the reset,

[00:40:53] I felt 100% better.

[00:40:56] Like,

[00:40:56] I was eating meat

[00:40:58] and cheese and bacon

[00:40:59] and like,

[00:41:00] you know,

[00:41:01] before that,

[00:41:01] I was like using the-

[00:41:03] I was going for number two

[00:41:05] is like three,

[00:41:06] three, four times a day.

[00:41:07] And they were like-

[00:41:09] That's a lot.

[00:41:09] Sorry for the visual,

[00:41:11] but it was like-

[00:41:13] Imagine a syringe.

[00:41:15] Like,

[00:41:15] you're squeezing out

[00:41:16] a syringe at high speed,

[00:41:17] you know?

[00:41:18] Um,

[00:41:19] with lots of backsplash.

[00:41:21] Oh,

[00:41:21] Jesus.

[00:41:21] No,

[00:41:21] it was-

[00:41:22] And then,

[00:41:22] so when I got-

[00:41:23] Really letting it out there,

[00:41:24] eh?

[00:41:24] When I got on the reset,

[00:41:26] like,

[00:41:27] I became regular.

[00:41:28] Yeah.

[00:41:28] Every day between nine and ten,

[00:41:30] I had one solid dump

[00:41:32] and that was it.

[00:41:34] And it was like,

[00:41:35] you know,

[00:41:35] now there's also theories.

[00:41:36] Oh,

[00:41:36] you need to go to the bathroom

[00:41:38] like two,

[00:41:38] three times a day.

[00:41:39] Really?

[00:41:40] Exactly.

[00:41:40] I don't think so.

[00:41:41] How much food do you eat?

[00:41:42] That's excessive.

[00:41:43] But I felt great.

[00:41:44] I had more energy.

[00:41:45] Um,

[00:41:46] overall,

[00:41:46] I lost some weight,

[00:41:50] but the only thing I don't like-

[00:41:52] If you kept at it,

[00:41:52] you'd lose a pile.

[00:41:53] I don't like-

[00:41:54] What I don't like about keto,

[00:41:55] and especially with our busy life,

[00:41:57] is that,

[00:41:58] uh,

[00:41:58] it's-

[00:41:59] I can't,

[00:42:00] um,

[00:42:00] manage,

[00:42:01] like,

[00:42:01] um,

[00:42:02] not manage-

[00:42:02] I can't sustain it.

[00:42:03] Yeah,

[00:42:03] yeah,

[00:42:04] fair enough.

[00:42:04] You know,

[00:42:05] Well,

[00:42:05] because you've got to cook

[00:42:05] two separate meals,

[00:42:07] essentially.

[00:42:08] Yeah,

[00:42:08] no,

[00:42:08] I get it.

[00:42:08] Because I've got to watch out now

[00:42:09] what ingredients I add,

[00:42:11] you know,

[00:42:11] what has sugar,

[00:42:12] what doesn't.

[00:42:12] Like,

[00:42:13] it's so hard.

[00:42:13] I totally get it,

[00:42:14] and it's part of the reason

[00:42:16] why for the last year

[00:42:17] I have not really been on it.

[00:42:20] But yeah,

[00:42:21] you lost,

[00:42:21] like,

[00:42:22] tons of weight.

[00:42:22] Oh,

[00:42:23] yeah,

[00:42:23] and like,

[00:42:24] I've gained some back.

[00:42:25] I'll lose-

[00:42:25] But you can't see that.

[00:42:26] By the end of January,

[00:42:28] I'm gonna look sickly skinny.

[00:42:31] Like,

[00:42:31] if I could,

[00:42:32] I mean,

[00:42:32] ultimately,

[00:42:33] like,

[00:42:33] I-

[00:42:34] I also only eat,

[00:42:35] like,

[00:42:35] once a day.

[00:42:36] Which is also not necessarily

[00:42:37] the healthiest thing.

[00:42:38] Oh,

[00:42:38] no,

[00:42:38] not at all.

[00:42:39] I drink every day

[00:42:40] and I only eat once a day.

[00:42:41] None of that is healthy.

[00:42:42] I,

[00:42:43] uh,

[00:42:43] you know,

[00:42:44] like,

[00:42:44] I'm not-

[00:42:44] I don't really-

[00:42:45] I don't necessarily have

[00:42:47] issues with my weight.

[00:42:50] Because I-

[00:42:50] I am-

[00:42:51] Well,

[00:42:51] you know,

[00:42:51] I'm 5'11".

[00:42:52] Yeah.

[00:42:53] So,

[00:42:53] I think I'm around-

[00:42:55] I wanna say 250.

[00:42:57] Okay.

[00:42:58] 240 to 250.

[00:42:59] I don't know what weight looks like on people.

[00:43:00] And,

[00:43:00] you know,

[00:43:01] it's more just like-

[00:43:03] like,

[00:43:03] my belly area is big

[00:43:04] and that's what I would like to lose

[00:43:06] and that is the fucking hardest thing to lose.

[00:43:08] I probably need to work out

[00:43:09] and,

[00:43:09] you know-

[00:43:10] No,

[00:43:10] just keto.

[00:43:10] Yeah.

[00:43:11] Well,

[00:43:11] no,

[00:43:11] but like,

[00:43:12] I do need-

[00:43:13] Just clean eating.

[00:43:13] I do need to tighten things up.

[00:43:15] Yeah,

[00:43:15] no,

[00:43:15] that's a separate-

[00:43:17] Yeah.

[00:43:17] Like,

[00:43:17] losing the weight is just about what you need.

[00:43:20] Well,

[00:43:20] exercise helps,

[00:43:21] but like-

[00:43:21] Yeah,

[00:43:22] and that's the thing.

[00:43:22] But gaining muscle mass and being fit

[00:43:25] is a totally different thing.

[00:43:27] Well,

[00:43:27] and that's the thing.

[00:43:27] I don't wanna just lose weight

[00:43:28] because then everything's just gonna sag.

[00:43:30] True.

[00:43:31] Right?

[00:43:31] So,

[00:43:31] like,

[00:43:31] if I'm gonna-

[00:43:32] if I really wanted to focus on losing weight

[00:43:36] or losing fat,

[00:43:37] let's call it-

[00:43:38] You should do it with exercise.

[00:43:39] Then I need to do it with exercise.

[00:43:42] Other than that,

[00:43:42] like,

[00:43:43] you know,

[00:43:43] like,

[00:43:43] I mean,

[00:43:44] I don't have fat arms.

[00:43:45] I don't have fat legs or anything.

[00:43:46] So,

[00:43:46] like,

[00:43:47] it's just a belly area

[00:43:48] and a double chin.

[00:43:50] That's where you got the beard.

[00:43:52] It hides my triple chin.

[00:43:55] But yeah,

[00:43:56] no,

[00:43:56] so,

[00:43:57] I-

[00:43:57] yeah,

[00:43:57] I'm definitely gonna get tested

[00:43:58] and I'm gonna tell my doctor,

[00:44:00] like,

[00:44:00] hey,

[00:44:01] like,

[00:44:01] I'm doing this.

[00:44:02] I'm doing this for me.

[00:44:04] You know,

[00:44:04] I'm not doing this to,

[00:44:06] you know,

[00:44:06] prove anything to anyone.

[00:44:09] I just really wanna see-

[00:44:11] and I think I'm gonna try

[00:44:12] the three months keto

[00:44:13] because I think it's somewhat sustainable.

[00:44:16] Okay.

[00:44:16] For three,

[00:44:17] for a short period of time.

[00:44:18] Yeah.

[00:44:19] And then I wanna get-

[00:44:20] cause this is also like Dr. D told us,

[00:44:22] told me that,

[00:44:23] you know,

[00:44:24] you should get blood work done before and after.

[00:44:26] Yeah,

[00:44:26] I've never done that.

[00:44:27] So,

[00:44:28] I think I'll go and do that.

[00:44:30] I haven't had blood work,

[00:44:31] I don't know,

[00:44:32] ever.

[00:44:33] Yeah.

[00:44:33] One time.

[00:44:33] I didn't until my doctor sent me-

[00:44:35] And I don't even know what they tested for.

[00:44:37] Like,

[00:44:37] I got tested for,

[00:44:39] like,

[00:44:40] sugar,

[00:44:41] and-

[00:44:41] Oh no,

[00:44:41] I had like a sexually transmitted disease test.

[00:44:44] Oh,

[00:44:44] did you get the-

[00:44:45] No,

[00:44:45] I had nothing.

[00:44:46] I just,

[00:44:46] no,

[00:44:47] no,

[00:44:47] no,

[00:44:47] I just,

[00:44:47] I did it.

[00:44:48] Long story.

[00:44:50] Nothing,

[00:44:51] everything was fine.

[00:44:52] But I guess for HIV or whatever,

[00:44:54] you have to do blood.

[00:44:55] Oh,

[00:44:56] okay.

[00:44:56] All the other ones,

[00:44:57] it's just pee.

[00:44:58] Yeah,

[00:44:58] but-

[00:44:59] I don't think they do the Q-tip anymore.

[00:45:00] Yeah,

[00:45:01] I don't know.

[00:45:01] I never-

[00:45:02] I think now it's just pee.

[00:45:04] I've had one partner for now over 20 years,

[00:45:07] so I'm like-

[00:45:08] If you get anything,

[00:45:09] well,

[00:45:09] there's-

[00:45:09] Fuck.

[00:45:11] She's out.

[00:45:12] She's out.

[00:45:12] There's a lot of questions.

[00:45:13] It's a lot of me.

[00:45:15] No,

[00:45:16] but,

[00:45:16] and then I got tested for testosterone,

[00:45:19] because-

[00:45:19] Oh,

[00:45:20] okay.

[00:45:20] I,

[00:45:20] at one point,

[00:45:21] you know,

[00:45:22] when I,

[00:45:23] this was when I was going through depression.

[00:45:24] Yeah.

[00:45:25] Glenn,

[00:45:26] actually,

[00:45:26] Glenn Damon told me-

[00:45:27] He's a big proponent of like,

[00:45:30] get tested,

[00:45:31] your T levels checked.

[00:45:32] Yes.

[00:45:32] I remember when he was on the show,

[00:45:33] he talked about that,

[00:45:33] like very specifically.

[00:45:34] Yeah,

[00:45:34] because he,

[00:45:35] he,

[00:45:36] his was low,

[00:45:36] and so now he has to get like,

[00:45:38] actual,

[00:45:39] like shots-

[00:45:40] Shots,

[00:45:40] yeah.

[00:45:41] Once every three,

[00:45:42] four weeks,

[00:45:42] whatever it is.

[00:45:43] Money,

[00:45:43] like,

[00:45:44] I think when you get to 40,

[00:45:46] late 30s,

[00:45:47] like it's time to,

[00:45:48] I think it is a good time to get that check.

[00:45:50] Yeah,

[00:45:51] yeah,

[00:45:51] yeah,

[00:45:51] that's-

[00:45:52] I should probably do the same,

[00:45:53] like-

[00:45:53] Well,

[00:45:53] and so it's,

[00:45:54] it's so,

[00:45:55] and we had this conversation with my,

[00:45:57] my buddies actually,

[00:45:58] and now my phone's just lit up with ED fucking pills,

[00:46:04] and it's just like,

[00:46:05] because like we talked about like how,

[00:46:07] like how bad it is for you to take like,

[00:46:10] you know,

[00:46:10] Viagra,

[00:46:11] and now they have this new thing,

[00:46:13] Phoenix,

[00:46:13] like every third act,

[00:46:15] Oh yeah,

[00:46:15] there's Phoenix,

[00:46:16] you know,

[00:46:16] I'm like-

[00:46:16] Boner pills.

[00:46:17] Part of me wants to try it,

[00:46:18] because it's like maybe the wife will be finally satisfied,

[00:46:21] you know?

[00:46:21] Take some gas station boner pills,

[00:46:23] boner pills,

[00:46:24] no prescription required.

[00:46:25] And then,

[00:46:25] you know,

[00:46:25] Two Bears,

[00:46:26] One Cave,

[00:46:26] they are,

[00:46:27] was it Two Bears,

[00:46:28] One Cave,

[00:46:28] or Bad Friends,

[00:46:30] one of them,

[00:46:30] they had like the blue pill,

[00:46:32] or whatever it's called.

[00:46:33] Blue Chew,

[00:46:34] that's what it is.

[00:46:35] Blue Chew,

[00:46:35] that's the big one they're pushing out.

[00:46:36] Yeah,

[00:46:36] that's the gas station one,

[00:46:37] yeah.

[00:46:38] And so like,

[00:46:39] you know,

[00:46:39] we talked to,

[00:46:40] it was like,

[00:46:40] yeah,

[00:46:40] like it's like,

[00:46:42] I think it's with anything,

[00:46:43] we talked about like ADHD pills,

[00:46:45] right?

[00:46:45] Like,

[00:46:45] so like if you replace these things with pills,

[00:46:49] well,

[00:46:50] naturally your body will just stop producing what needs to produce.

[00:46:54] I think so.

[00:46:54] I don't know enough scientifically,

[00:46:56] but like I do for some reason believe that.

[00:46:59] Yeah.

[00:47:00] And like,

[00:47:00] I also think,

[00:47:02] well,

[00:47:02] it's like an immune system,

[00:47:04] right?

[00:47:04] You should try natural means of health before trying pharmaceuticals.

[00:47:10] Yeah.

[00:47:10] Because that's all chemicals.

[00:47:12] Again,

[00:47:12] a great like conversation to have with the men's health guys because they're pharmacists.

[00:47:16] Actually,

[00:47:16] yeah,

[00:47:16] we should,

[00:47:16] we should have them on.

[00:47:17] And so it's time to have them on again.

[00:47:18] Well,

[00:47:19] we were supposed to be on their show in July,

[00:47:21] but then they never called back.

[00:47:24] They don't like us.

[00:47:25] That's fine.

[00:47:26] They don't like us.

[00:47:26] Did we ruin it?

[00:47:27] Yeah,

[00:47:27] we ruined it.

[00:47:28] It was probably my fault.

[00:47:30] Um,

[00:47:30] but yeah,

[00:47:31] no,

[00:47:31] that's something that it's,

[00:47:32] I know I've listened to their show and they talked about it too as well.

[00:47:35] Well,

[00:47:36] I like their show because they talk a lot about like the medical side of things.

[00:47:42] Cause they have the background.

[00:47:43] Like we're pretty honed in on like,

[00:47:44] Hey,

[00:47:44] how are you feeling?

[00:47:45] That's right.

[00:47:45] Which is,

[00:47:45] I think just as important.

[00:47:47] Yeah.

[00:47:47] Um,

[00:47:48] but they're big,

[00:47:49] they have that background.

[00:47:49] And so they're big on like actual factual medical information.

[00:47:55] That is their profession.

[00:47:56] That's their profession.

[00:47:56] And so it's interesting.

[00:47:59] Yeah.

[00:47:59] I like what they talk about because it's the same.

[00:48:03] I think if you listen to their show and you listen to our show,

[00:48:06] it's probably the best combination.

[00:48:08] Yeah.

[00:48:08] Like,

[00:48:09] yeah,

[00:48:09] I just,

[00:48:09] I just like their show.

[00:48:11] I like those guys.

[00:48:12] Yeah.

[00:48:12] We should have them on again or now.

[00:48:14] We should definitely schedule something.

[00:48:16] Um,

[00:48:16] but yeah,

[00:48:17] no,

[00:48:17] so yeah,

[00:48:19] it's,

[00:48:19] uh,

[00:48:20] I'm just curious to see what not drinking for three months is going to do to my body.

[00:48:26] Nothing bad.

[00:48:27] No,

[00:48:28] no.

[00:48:28] That's the thing.

[00:48:29] Like it's just,

[00:48:29] there's no chance it does anything bad.

[00:48:32] I know my wife's happy.

[00:48:33] Really?

[00:48:33] Uh,

[00:48:34] and,

[00:48:34] and that's the thing.

[00:48:34] I'm like,

[00:48:35] I'm like,

[00:48:35] she's so happy.

[00:48:36] I don't even drink,

[00:48:38] but no,

[00:48:39] I,

[00:48:39] I think she just,

[00:48:41] um,

[00:48:41] what she's hoping to get out of this is,

[00:48:44] uh,

[00:48:45] see an improvement of,

[00:48:46] on my energy and hopefully,

[00:48:48] you know,

[00:48:49] just kind of,

[00:48:49] I guess be more present because it's been.

[00:48:52] Yeah.

[00:48:53] But is alcohol preventing you from being present?

[00:48:56] No,

[00:48:56] but I,

[00:48:56] I think,

[00:48:57] well,

[00:48:57] then what's the big fucking deal?

[00:48:58] I think,

[00:48:59] I think it's a mental thing.

[00:49:00] Yeah,

[00:49:00] no,

[00:49:01] I understand.

[00:49:01] Yeah.

[00:49:02] So,

[00:49:02] yeah.

[00:49:03] Um,

[00:49:04] yeah,

[00:49:04] well,

[00:49:05] um,

[00:49:05] yeah,

[00:49:06] I think my wife's a little bit scared.

[00:49:08] Is she,

[00:49:09] is she going to do it with us?

[00:49:10] Yeah.

[00:49:11] Okay,

[00:49:12] nice.

[00:49:12] She's doing it too.

[00:49:13] Good.

[00:49:13] Yeah.

[00:49:14] That's good.

[00:49:14] And she's,

[00:49:15] I think she's,

[00:49:15] what about your kid?

[00:49:17] No,

[00:49:18] she's drinking.

[00:49:18] She can't give up the booze,

[00:49:20] man.

[00:49:20] It's crazy.

[00:49:21] She'd get shakes.

[00:49:22] 13 and just wine bottles everywhere.

[00:49:26] That's a joke.

[00:49:27] That's a joke.

[00:49:27] It's a joke.

[00:49:28] Totally a joke.

[00:49:29] She's never drank.

[00:49:31] Uh,

[00:49:32] I can't say that about my son.

[00:49:33] Not until she's 15.

[00:49:34] I can't say that about my son.

[00:49:35] 15,

[00:49:35] that's our rule.

[00:49:37] My son likes beer.

[00:49:38] Of course he does.

[00:49:39] Uh,

[00:49:39] he does not like wine.

[00:49:41] That's an acquired taste.

[00:49:42] So quick,

[00:49:43] just a quick story.

[00:49:44] We,

[00:49:44] he had his first,

[00:49:45] uh,

[00:49:45] communion and,

[00:49:47] um,

[00:49:48] is it real wine?

[00:49:49] Yeah.

[00:49:50] Oh yeah.

[00:49:50] It's real wine.

[00:49:51] Yeah.

[00:49:51] Okay.

[00:49:52] And so,

[00:49:52] and yeah,

[00:49:53] exactly.

[00:49:53] It's like Catholic fucking there.

[00:49:55] They're giving them,

[00:49:56] you know,

[00:49:56] giving kids wine,

[00:49:57] right?

[00:49:57] My church,

[00:49:58] my church when I was a kid and went to church,

[00:50:00] it was grape juice.

[00:50:01] And,

[00:50:01] oh yeah.

[00:50:02] But we only did communion like every four months.

[00:50:05] Okay.

[00:50:06] It wasn't like an every week.

[00:50:07] And so the first time my son did it,

[00:50:10] uh,

[00:50:10] and the church where we went to,

[00:50:12] um,

[00:50:13] they had nice and sweet wine,

[00:50:14] you know,

[00:50:15] so he took a sip.

[00:50:16] He was like,

[00:50:16] Ooh,

[00:50:16] this is good out loud.

[00:50:19] Even the last person on top could hear that,

[00:50:22] you know,

[00:50:22] like,

[00:50:22] Oh no,

[00:50:23] it is Jacob.

[00:50:23] That's our,

[00:50:24] that's,

[00:50:24] that's Jacob.

[00:50:25] That's our son.

[00:50:26] Um,

[00:50:26] but then the second time we went to,

[00:50:28] uh,

[00:50:28] it was our friend's communion and he went in,

[00:50:31] did the whole thing.

[00:50:32] And I guess they might've had like a little bit drier wine.

[00:50:36] Okay.

[00:50:37] He took a sip and he was like,

[00:50:39] the whole time he was walking back,

[00:50:40] he's trying,

[00:50:44] Joe's face,

[00:50:45] but he just kidding.

[00:50:46] He's just like walking by.

[00:50:49] Like,

[00:50:49] so yeah,

[00:50:50] I did last,

[00:50:51] last night me and my wife had some wine and we're like,

[00:50:54] ah,

[00:50:54] like you want,

[00:50:55] you want the sip?

[00:50:56] And he's smells it.

[00:50:57] He's like,

[00:50:58] Nope.

[00:50:58] Gross.

[00:50:59] Yeah.

[00:51:00] I had wine for the first time of the season.

[00:51:06] Last weekend,

[00:51:07] weekend before.

[00:51:09] Really?

[00:51:10] I don't drink wine in summer.

[00:51:11] Oh,

[00:51:11] okay.

[00:51:12] I only drink it in fall and winter.

[00:51:14] And so,

[00:51:15] Oh,

[00:51:16] in Montreal,

[00:51:16] I enjoy so much wine.

[00:51:17] I just don't,

[00:51:18] I just don't,

[00:51:18] I won't touch it.

[00:51:20] And then,

[00:51:20] and then as soon as like you wake up,

[00:51:23] you get that little bit of cold in the air.

[00:51:24] I'm like,

[00:51:25] Ooh,

[00:51:25] it's wine time.

[00:51:27] Excuse me.

[00:51:28] It's like my pumpkin spice season.

[00:51:30] okay.

[00:51:30] Yeah.

[00:51:30] Yeah.

[00:51:30] You know what I want to do?

[00:51:32] Uh,

[00:51:32] after we're done,

[00:51:33] uh,

[00:51:34] our three months,

[00:51:35] um,

[00:51:35] I want to have a,

[00:51:36] a wine night where like we should,

[00:51:40] like everyone brings like a nice bottle of wine.

[00:51:42] I'm listening.

[00:51:43] We'll get some cheese and,

[00:51:44] and grapes and,

[00:51:45] you know,

[00:51:46] go get blue cheese whole.

[00:51:47] Oh,

[00:51:48] I forgot to bring it today.

[00:51:49] I have a bunch in the fridge.

[00:51:50] I was going to bring some for us to eat.

[00:51:52] That's right.

[00:51:52] Next time.

[00:51:53] Next time.

[00:51:53] But yeah,

[00:51:54] we'll,

[00:51:54] uh,

[00:51:54] we'll,

[00:51:54] we'll,

[00:51:55] we'll do like a whole wine.

[00:51:56] Done.

[00:51:57] Wine evening,

[00:51:57] you know,

[00:51:58] and we'll only drink wine.

[00:51:59] No whiskeys.

[00:52:00] I'm all in.

[00:52:01] Perfect.

[00:52:02] Yep.

[00:52:03] All right.

[00:52:03] Let's leave it there.

[00:52:04] Okay.

[00:52:04] Um,

[00:52:05] so I,

[00:52:06] I guess let's put out the word there.

[00:52:08] If you guys want to join,

[00:52:09] uh,

[00:52:09] our challenge,

[00:52:11] join it,

[00:52:12] join us,

[00:52:12] message us.

[00:52:13] What are the criteria?

[00:52:15] You know what?

[00:52:15] Just join.

[00:52:16] Are we,

[00:52:16] no,

[00:52:16] but are we doing it?

[00:52:17] We're going to do the money thing,

[00:52:18] but I don't know.

[00:52:20] We still can.

[00:52:21] Yeah.

[00:52:21] I think we should.

[00:52:22] I think we should,

[00:52:22] because there,

[00:52:23] I think it's shying some people away from doing it.

[00:52:26] Okay.

[00:52:26] And so I don't want to be,

[00:52:28] I don't want people to feel like they can't be a part of it.

[00:52:31] Well,

[00:52:31] so if you want,

[00:52:32] we're contributing 200 bucks and a hundred dollars is going to get donated to a family in need or person in need.

[00:52:39] And then the other hundred is going to be pooled at the end.

[00:52:42] Whoever's left at the end,

[00:52:44] split up between.

[00:52:45] It's all based on the honor system.

[00:52:46] Also,

[00:52:46] if you want to do it and just do it because you want to do it,

[00:52:49] that's fine.

[00:52:50] Yeah.

[00:52:50] You don't have to contribute.

[00:52:51] That's totally fine.

[00:52:52] So nobody cares.

[00:52:53] Nobody's keeping track.

[00:52:55] Yeah.

[00:52:55] We're going to start a group chat with the group.

[00:52:57] And so you're welcome to join us.

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